Saturday, April 23, 2011

Toby Mac Illuminati????????


I am so incredibly disturbed at what I am seeing in music industry. Being a huge music fan myself, it seems like the biggest and the best are following the god of this age. I used to laugh at this stuff and think it was hokey and dorky. Devil music? Yeah Right. What you could tell with bands is where they stood on things. Like Slayer or Marilyn Manson. Not my favorites at all. But I at least I knew where they stand. Many big artists are using deceptive brainwashing techniques to promote the god of this age lucifer. Even in many interviews Slayer said what they do is a gimmick. But there are so many now promoting the ALL SEEING EYE. Kanye West and Katie Perry have some of the most darkest tactics I have ever seen.

But what really surprises me, is there are also a few Christian
artists appearing to have the same trend. Now I want to be
careful not to judge Toby Mac. Before I outright accuse him
of anything, I would like to know where he stands all I know
on one of his recent albums he mentions "Illuminati comin
through". Toby Mac seems to have gotten a lot of heat as well
hate sites dedicated to this subject. His response I will say is
so lame. " Well illuminati just means illuminated ones".
Considering the crap thats going on in the music industry
and where our world is heading. My advice to Toby Mac
is dumb answer and this sounds to me like the usually
rhetoric these artists say when asked if they are illuminati.

Big artists deny such as Jay Z, Beyonce, Katy Perry, Kanye West. What's really sad is that Beyonce, Katy Perry and Kanye West were all professed Christians. Just Google their beliefs for yourself. I have to say the imagery in Toby Macs album cover is Satanic and definitely illuminati. I am hoping this is not a known decsion on Toby Macs part but maybe what his record label is pushing. Either way Toby must put a stop to this and come out and speak against this movement, otherwise It will look like he is one of them.

Notice in the image above. One eye is showing and he has his hand covering
his heart. This has the appearance of dedication to the illuminati. Again
he could be directed to do this by photographers or his record company.
However he needs to wake up. More Christians need to ask what he is doing.

The other picture is the all seeing eye. Also specifically diversity is one
of the messaging words illuminati use for acceptance such as accepting
religions sexual natures etc etc. Diversity is one of their imaging words
they use again this could be directed by record labels however this is very
dark. Toby please wake up.

Toby stop taking pictures with one eye bro it's satanic illuminati crap. I know Jay Z
and Kanye do it. You are above this imagery and appearance of evil.




82 comments:

  1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39oKRVta0F4 ok man look this videos moving picture tobymac one eye

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  2. YOU ARE SOOOOOOOOOOO WRONG ! TOBYMAC IS CHRISTIAN AND HE PRAYS IN HIS CONCERTS, PEOPLE ARE TOUCHED BY GOD, SOM ACCEPT CHRIST...SO ...IS HE PRAYING TO THE DEVI ???? DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT THE DEVIL LIKES PEOPLE COMING AT THE FEET OF GOD....THIS IS SOOOOO LAME:(

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    1. No it is not lame , why he has symbols of this world, i say it this way , Please Lord show us what is this sings , and say us about what we can listen and what is only for your glory , thanks Lord, please open our eyes and our ears .

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    2. It says to go to your room by yourself and shut the door and pray, and when GOD sees what is done in secret, will reward you. and to not be like those who do things FOR THE WORLD TO SEE.
      Mathew 23:5.. Lorejoe17 i suggest you read your bible and try and remove some of the IDOLS you are trying to clasp onto

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    3. Matthew 7:15
      “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves."

      I don't know if TobyMac is the wolf but something is definitely wrong here.

      Also
      Matthew 7:13
      “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it."

      Just because lots of people do something does not make it right.

      I really hope that he isn't a part of the illuminati because I really like some of his song

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    4. What brought me here was while watching Tbn Jan crotch was speaking with a gospel music president they mentioned tobymac was number 1 showed his album cover that had 1 big eye on t. Saddened that jan would be apart of this does she not know what is going on is she so busy that such obviousness slipped passed her spiritual
      Eyes I pray tbn is not anyway involved in the new world order



      music he mentioned tobymac was my,Ber on and showed







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    5. Not everyone that says Lord will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Matthew 7:21. (ESV). The word also warns us not to walk in the appearance of evil to abstain from it. 1 Thessalonians 5:22.

      So there are two questions that can be asked. 1. Is this a huge coincidence that he is covering his eye or has these symbols on his album?
      2. Is he aware of it and refuses to speak against it?

      He has to be aware of the implications of what he is doing. Only God knows a mans heart but the Holy Spirit gives us discernment and the word tell us to test the spirits and check if they are genuine. I will leave it at that.

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  3. Look at the lyrics to city on our knees that song has really tricky things like saints and sinners? If God was to come now do u really think he would mix saints and sinners also why third world missions? Or why would have sail the sea? Very tricky song.

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    1. While I used to like Toby Mac's songs, we found this one to be strange too (even before we knew about the illuminati). The whole overtone of the song has to do with One World. It doesn't seem to specify if it is one world under the Lord Jesus Christ (which is coming in the future) or the NWO that is trying to be implemented. I can't understand why someone who seems to have as much insight as Toby Mac does, would sing a song like this. But what I really can't understand is why he would sing a song about the illuminati (You can find it on Youtube). The song was not written on a Christian album, but it had the same flavor as the 'One-world' theme.

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    2. Actually, Susan, in One World, he says "Imma dedicate this one to every one of God's children." Also he says in that same song, "everyone of us was made to reflect the light and glorify the Most High." City On Our Knees is about Christians going into the world and making a difference that adds to God's kingdom. A third world mission is a mission trip in poor countries. Yes, it's not a clear song, but interviews and the book he wrote cleared that up

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    3. by Gods children, do you realise if satan is his god, he would be calling us children of satan, see he did not specify what god he said we were children of, if he worshipped a banana it would be called god to him, this is the same thing on the back of a dollar, it says IN GOD WE TRUST, the people who created the dollar packed it full of satanic imagery hence when they say in god we trust they dont mean the God of the bible.also check this out, even if he said that in reference to the one true God, that doesnt prove he is christian, I have scripture to back this up:
      You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror. James 2:19 NLT... does this make the demons christian too? im sorry if this sounds a little rude, im just trying to prove my point ^_^

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  4. Look this guys is not very smart do some research Songs (with lyrics)and also he never covers his eye (not to mention its his LEFT not right) The last thing is, you're telling me he is BAD and EVIL for putting his hand over his heart? When you do the pledge of allegiance what do you do just stand there? (im not saying he was doing that But he would not EVER be in the illuminati)

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    1. this is not school, and we are not pledging our allegiance to any one but our God and Father. So why would you try and even appear evil, when as Christians we are to avoid even the appearance of evil
      1 Thessalonians 5:22

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    2. He is appearing evil because there is something evil o
      Going on here

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    3. evil blinds those it possesses...when you are under evil you will always want to justify yourself,trying to clean up the mess and making it seem right.The fact still remains he covered one eye..

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  5. When on saw his advertisement for his recent tour, I was shocked, "EYE ON IT". It is a big EYE. Look it up. Could he get any more blatant than that?! So, I started closely examining the lyrics of his songs and was so disturbed, especially with the "Il-m-i" song. For those of you who think this is all crazy, trust me, I don't want to believe this either. I grew up on DC Talk. I tried to prove myself wrong, but when I analyzed this song among many others, I realized. HE knows exactly what he is doing. The song states:

    Flow like the Cassius, swing like the Clay
    One day, I'm'a make the whole world pay
    **Cassius is the guy who plotted to kill Julius Ceasar and is the name of a very popular song, which means two-faced. Don't believe me, google it and read the wikipedia article.


    "With k.o.'s and okay we bash clots-n-dot-dash
    You got that right, I'm'a rock the Morse code tonight"
    **Toby is telling us he is speaking in code. This is why the song doesn't make sense, but he is speaking loud and clear.


    ..."And if I miss with my missles you're still gonna sizzle
    'Cause I frizzle fry radiation style worldwide"
    **Many say that high levels of radiation will be used to depopulate the world, in order for the illumanti to establish the New World Order. That is why people are rejecting their smart meters.

    ..."Then I do sir, producer, hit me with the juice
    Much obliged got the head of a moose
    So mount me on the wall of your livin' room
    Sure to bring the boom
    Speakin' like a zoom deep into your tomb"
    ***He is a trophy for his producer, being used to bring death.

    "I do windows (on school days) spill Jim Jones (type cool-aid)
    All these primrose (style bouquets) I clip those (for doomsday)"
    *** This is probably the most disturbing part of the song, besides "Illuminati comin' through." He is spilling Jim Jones kool-aid to cut the bouquet of the bride of Christ for doomsday. Primrose bouquets are what a bride carries walking down the aisle, symbolic of her beauty and purity.

    This got me thinking. His music is not worship at all. You can't enter into the presence of God with his music. This type of music makes us feel good but is a substitute. "Enter into His gates with thanksgiving and enter His courts with Praise." We enter into the Holy of Holies, and experience true intimacy with Christ through praise.

    Google John Todd, who is ex-illumanti. He talks about how the occult controls the music industry. We need to be aware and not be deceived.

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    1. Cassius Clay. Google that name. He's making a boxing reference. Cassius Clay is Muhammed Ali.

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    2. "Look, I am sending you out as sheep among wolves. So be as shrewd as snakes and harmless as doves."
      Matthew 10:16
      The answer given by Tobymac on this was not one that someone who knew Truth should give. I heard this Ill-Am-I song and was immediately shocked, I had to look this up to confirm my suspicions. I do believe that some of his music to not be worshiping God, who cares if it is a remake. A remake of an evil thing is still evil. Also, why do you think that there would not be FALSE ones among us? is not the evil one trying to deceive believers? why would he be concerned with those already under in his "possession"? Be shrewd, and as Jesus said, "WATCH"

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    3. This "Unknown" has hit it right on the head..
      Travis, is trying to deceive, or is being deceived, as well as some of the other posters in here. Trust in Jesus and he will lead you to truth.

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    4. not commenting on anything other than the clay comment.... but that is mohammad ali's real name => cassius clay... he changed it to mohammad ali.... so he is swinging like a boxer...

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    5. TobyMac didn't even write the song. So MAYBE (and I doubt it) the original band who wrote it had bad intentions but he doesn't.http://www.jesusfreakhideout.com/interviews/TobyMac2012.asp
      And you're telling me to open my eyes to the truth? I can't. I goughd them out because they reminded me too much of the illuminati

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    6. That's not even possible because if someone was really following Jesus they wouldn't cover a satanic song. You need to accept the truth Peter Hanna, and the reason you can't is because you're a pagan Christian. Get out of Christianity and go follow God with the full truth. The gospel industry is a demonic industry and the illuminati controls and runs Christianity. Don't be deceived, wake up

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    7. I think you are right. I'm sad. Did Toby take the mark of the beast?

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  6. I was listening to "Ill-M-I" and the lyrics really caught my attention....I hope Toby isn't down with this illuminati stuff too!!!

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  7. Those who really want to hear the truth will recieve it as long as they're heart and mind are open! Seek and ye will find right?! Don't be decieved just because this man or any other person calls themselves a "Christian" anyone can call themselves that! If Toby Mac is straight up singing a song about illuminati comin through...well then duh! He's straight up telling you! And don't you think satan is going to work extra hard in the church? I mean he already has the rest of the world so he's trying to bring the so called christians down to follow him as well! Just open your eyes and don't be decieved! Research everything and ask the holy spirit for guidance in all that you do! Halleluyer!!!

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  8. Something is way off with Toby Mac. I've seen several interviews of him on YouTube and it looks like he is under mind control from the illuminati. They have sinister ways to control people in media and the music and entertainment business to bring about their evil new world order agenda and are using people as pawns. If you are a true fan, and more importantly, a true believer in Jesus Christ..PLEASE pray for Toby and others to be released from the clutches of satan.

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  9. No one really knows what is in Toby Mac's mind... There are things that other people misinterpret... People see it as an illuminati thing of singing and we didn't see what is inside Toby Mac's heart and mind... People are judging that Toby Mac is Satan's disciple and no one ever knows that deep inside Toby Mac's heart and mind he was praising God...

    The question here now is
    "What if God sees Toby Mac's songs praises Him because God knows the pure intention of Toby Mac while other people are busy judging him? Who has the better gain in heaven?

    No one really knows... There are also heavy metal christian bands who are devoted in praising God.. other people says that they are Satan's disciples because people sees them like they are possessed... Does anyone know what kind or Genre of Song God likes? When you say POP, HIP-HOP, JAZZ, or MELLOW, is it MAN's own standard and not GOD?

    This verse may apply to the forum's replies:
    Matthew 7:1-5 "Judging others"

    And if Toby Mac is really really serious and he did it with all his heart and soul but he is not pleasing to the eye of God we all know that God will make a way to straighten him up. One great example is apostle PAUL who was once a persecutor but God makes a way to straighten up. Even Jonah who was instructed by God to travel to Nineveh but he refuses but still God makes a way to straighten him up... If Toby Mac is really one of the disciples of God, God will make a way to straighten him up...

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    1. The whole section of Matthew 7 has to do with people judging other people critically without judging themselves first. It doesn't have to do with looking at the fruit of the person's life and seeing what kind of fruit we are seeing which determines something about the person's heart. In Toby Mac's songs, we see two different types of fruit. Since these two fruits contradict each other, either Toby Mac is double minded (possibly due to mind control programming if he is a victim of being born in an illuminati family) or he believes in two, totally different philosophies in life (which ultimately is impossible to do). So there are two possibilities. One of them is that he has multiple personalities (something that happens to people from Illuminati homes) or he is trying to please (with his music) two different people groups (Christian and satanic). Since we don't have all the facts yet, all of us are pondering what the problem could be. It's not intended to 'judge' Toby Mac, but to help protect the Christian community at large. Perhaps we should all be praying for Toby Mac, that God will work in his heart, whether to redeem him, or to help him to choose between the two belief systems that he possibly believes in. It is possible that he has multiple personalities and needs God's help in a way that human beings can't give.

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  10. Perhaps Toby is infiltrating the Illuminati? Cloaking himself to save the lost in anyway possible by using the tricks pop music / rap music "satanists" are using to spread a Satanic message. (Lady Gaga, Madonna, Christina Aguilera, Bey, Jay Z, Perry, Minaj, Lambert, list goes on and on - google it for yourself), His music is committed to praising Jesus, I say props to him if he is using that imagery but major woe to him if your conspiracy theory turns out to be true.

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    1. If his music were committed to "praising Jesus", he sure has forgetting to literally praise him because Jesus's name is quite absent from his music. So I don't know what god he's praising, but it is definitely not Jesus

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    2. Funky Jesus Music, Jesus Freak, J Train, "I feel a breeze cover me called Jehovah", "X to me means extremely Christ!", "

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    3. When he mentions Jesus it is not honoring.

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    4. Ya'll people need to get out of Christianity, the gospel industry is straight wicked and demonic. In the gospel industry you have to break God's laws and promote the false image of Jesus that they show in the Catholic church. God is telling me to tell everyone that you need to leave that satanic religion of Christianity

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  11. Toby Mac and many other " Christian" artists in the music industry are not infiltrating the illuminati. They own the entire industry. These artists are doing the bidding of their masters, the producers. They are making money and being mainstreamed into secular society to make more money for themselves and their masters. The Evil will take your money and your soul anyway they can get it. The mind control issue could very well be relevant here, or greed and the realization that he just won't get those contracts and get on the radio unless you play their game could be it also. It works both ways. People Jesus warned us that in these days it will be next to impossible to tell! Our churches are lukewarm now serving a false Christ, when was the last time you heard repent, fear God, or you will burn in hell? God has said come out of her my people. Many, many "religious" figures that people think are good true followers of Christ, are really following the satanic agenda. Study the truth about Billy Graham, and every single television "pastor". This stuff runs deep, so deep you never seem to find an end to it once you start real research. It is hard to face these facts, but remember the road is narrow. Read your Bible and watch as it tells us to the spirit will guide you to truth. Ye will know them by their fruits. God Bless.

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    1. And you my friend are tje poison of the internet that probably calls their daughter dirty for having her first period. You do realize that if you bring children up with this sort of view point on everything then your gonna lose out on grand children cause your a loony amd pissed off your kids or because your kid sadly picked up the same process as you.

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    2. 34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

      35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

      36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

      37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

      38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

      Matt 10

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    3. Spiritual things are discerned spiritually. I pray for those who are still being blinded and cannot find the will to travel to the bible and find out the truth for themselves as Paul bids us to do.

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  12. Bahahaha people like you are why I am atheist. You take a simple ploy and moderning marketing and turn it into a huge religious debate. I enjoy tobymac's music and am not religious but can tell you, the man is backing god. As for the ridiculous claims on other artist like katy perry and kanye w. Well like i said, simply a marketing ploy used to create interest from others. So no Illuminati are not back. And even if they were, pagan religion is not "demon" based, simply more then one god. No different from alot of indian cultures. And saying you know where bands like slayer and marylin manson stand? Your joking right? Marylin is an artist who's target audience is emotional down trodden kids. Slayer is simply heavy rock. The two really shouldn't be lumped in the same catagory.

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  13. Guys just because of one strange song we're jumping to conclusions. stop, listen to hus other songs "my family my career, its all yours God"
    thankful for you eye on it
    "i dont wanna gain the whole world and lose my soul"
    HES SAYING HE WOULD NEVER LOSE HIS SOUL, HIS COMMUNION WITH GOD IN ORDER TO MAKE MONEY OR GET FAME sounds a little anti illuminati....
    List goes on lets go to "hey devil." "hey, devil go on get your junk outta here I DONT NEED YOU, SO MOVE ON" -on the tonight album. then me go to chrismas this year "and i thank the Lord for his favor, as we sing the songs of the Savior"
    AND WE ALL STEP OUT AND JUDGE TOBY EVEN THOUGH HE PRAISES GOD. why woud the illuminati want a guy like that? Ill m i is confusing but he ecplained its mmaking fun of pharisees who think they are above everyone. Get uour mind out of the gutter people the illuminati will never compare to the glory of God and the message of his artists.

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    1. I don't know that we are trying to judge Toby Mac necessarily. There is a strange inconsistency in the songs he sings and the messages on his album covers. What we want to find out is what is he really trying to say and do. We don't have enough information to come to a conclusion, and there could be many different reasons of why he is doing this. It isn't just one song. His album covers have illuminati symbols on them. The illuminati are a secret group that worships the devil. That is what is puzzling about what Toby Mac is doing. Why would anyone openly sing a song about the illuminati? It doesn't have anything to do with promoting Christ or the Gospel, like his other songs seem to do, but it would have the opposite effect of glorifying the devil. People that are in the illuminati have multiple personalities. They go by a saying from Anton LaVey which is something like this, "Serve God by day and serve Satan by night." Could this be what Toby is doing? I don't know. I wish I could get some kind of explanation from him about this. I'm not going to say that Toby Mac is a satanist, but neither am I going to say that he is a Christian at this point. I don't know what he is, except that he sings some really good Christian songs, and he sings a song about the illuminati, and has illuminati symbols on his albums.

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  14. I haven't read through all of the posts on this subject, but some people have suggested that I write to Toby Mac and ask him why he is doing these things. Has anyone written to him yet? We need to be careful that we don't come to any definite conclusions until we know all the facts. There is a reason why he is doing what he is doing. We just don't know what it is. Could it be that if someone brought this to his attention, that perhaps he would look at what he is doing and repent, or, maybe he will come right out and say what it is that he really believes in. All we can do is speculate until we really know what his heart and understanding of all this is.

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  15. i am not sure of him being an illuminati. i had gone to winter jam 2013 and h was there. this brought to my attention that there was just one eye and triangles flashing in the background? i am hoping he is not bc i dolike his music but was not sure what all that meant! he also has a song named "ill m i", listen to it then reply.

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    1. That's the all-seeing eye of the Illuminati and the triangles are their symbol too.

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  16. OK HERE'S THE DEAL: My wife approached me today asking why TB was mentioning Iluminati b/c our kids were singing those lyrics. Since I didn't know what the illuminati was...I searched around, saw this blog & others, & became very alarmed as a devout Christian.

    BUT I WANTED TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT instead of participate in heresy or gossip. What better way to do that? To hear from Toby Mac himself. And I found an interview that COMPLETELY explains, in a sane, sound, biblical, & Christian manner - every single piece of suspicion this entire blog has created.

    (SIDE NOTE: Please note that my intent is not to "blame everyone" as gossipers on this site...rather - i am grateful that Christians are asking the right questions & were frustrated w/ his "apparent" stray from the path...but I ask that you find the FACTS before further gossip and conjecture is PUBLICLY stated and reputations are ruined).

    WITH THAT SAID: I will paste below the link to his entire interview, where he explains several FACTS that I will restate here: #1) that he is doing a COVER from another artist (as opposed to CREATING these lyrics himself...which he decidedly did NOT do), #2) The lyrics Ill-M-I is slang for "Ill Am I", which is a biblical reference to being broken, #3) Which brings us to his use of the word illuminati itself...TB states that he actually ASKED the original artist, Galaxy/Glenn, what it meant (thus giving credence to the fact that TB is not a part of that organization nor identifies himself with them), and Glenn told him to look up the definition himself - to which TB did and found one of them to be "superior spiritual enlightenment"...which is a concept not foreign to the bible, #4) TB clearly explains that he had and still has little to no knowledge of the group "The Illuminati"...which is CAPITALIZED and different from the lowercase word, illuminati, #5) As for the eyeball on the art cover of another album...TB simply states that it is a reference to the act of a christian keeping his eye on God (NOTE: TB does not even make the connection to The Illuminati’s eye, further giving credence to his ignorance on the subject & the likelihood that it is just a coincidence.) Remember - the devil uses lies, deceit, and slight-of-hand to fool good people with good intentions...and if you try hard enough, you can find "unrighteous coincidences" in many things that are pure and good and true - which was a common practice used by the Pharisees to attack Jesus' character & paint him as a wicked person.

    WITH THAT SAID - THESE ARE THE FACTS. Here’s the entire interview for your reference: illuminati-music.blogspot.com/2011/04/toby-mac-illuminati.html

    And finally - it might be important to note that I am *not* a Toby Mac apologist or defender. I am not even a fan of his. On the contrary, since my daughter is a fan, both my wife & I set out to determine if his words, acts, or beliefs were clearly NON-Christian...and by seeking out the FACTS and only upon first-hand testimony instead of relying upon heresy, I am convicted by the truth that TB continues to remain a devout Christian.

    And for my last paradoxical thought - isn't all the conjecture in this blog very similar to how the Pharisees worked back in Jesus' day? The Pharisees CLAIMED to be devout Christians "seeking" out the truth...but in doing so, they set to blasphemy the character of Jesus based purely on un-truths and circumstantial heresay. So while I am not casting stones at anyone on this blog, rather I am encouraging everyone to not participate in the heresay, and get the facts based upon the truth before you conjecture in a public forum.

    I will not hide behind my thoughts in this commentary, and if anyone disagrees w/ me or would like to debate these matters in a PRIVATE forum, feel free to email me directly at c.willix @ live.com. Cheers and God Bless!

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    1. your comparison of this blog to the Pharisee in the bible is sadly inaccurate and too commonn. if you can dismiss all the evidence that points, not to TB being a satanist(everyone gets hung up here), but to the disturbing facts that HE HAS in common with other known illuminati artist, with "well see he didn't know" are you that gullible? the game is decepetion, look at the FRUIT, the lyrics, the album covers, the concerts with triangles and single eyes flashing and say "well he said he cant make the connection" PLEASE!! I hope your a better parent then that. listen to your kids sing that song and decide if they can enter into worship and praise of Almighty God or a god. all you have done was to do a quick search on google about the illuminati and then an interview of "playing dumb" while other people dedicate their lives as watchman on the wall (as you would say, pharisee's), they raise a flag of concern for the Christian community and it gets knocked down with scriptures about judging or being pahrisees, that is a sad show of the discernment the Body of Christ has on the earth. we are to be wise as serpents not stupid as doves. if you don't want to believe that the devil who was responsible for the worship in heaven would have his hand in the music industry and the WISE members of the Body= watch on the wall= warning those who will listen to WATCHOUT, then you WOULD believe the easiest thing, "well he said he doesn't know and others made him do it and he cant even make the connection" PLEASE!! with all the talk EVERYWHERE about the secular artist and their lyrics and their covers he doesn't even know enough to make a connection, that's deception, he should have said I see where that may look like it= flashing eye and triangles ect ect= but he said "I cant make the connection"??????????? yea right= deception

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    2. although i was well aware of this stuff in the secular music industry, i am kind of alarmed with some of this appearing with the "stronger" christian bands... not speaking for people like "skillet" because i always found them fishy, but toby mac, including his work with dc talk, has never been ashamed to speak of Jesus... sure some of his solo stuff has been "watered-down" but a lot of songs still mention "Lord," "Jehovah," and even "Jesus"... glass half full: maybe he is reaching more people this way because a lot of secular stuff uses his music... at his concerts he still prays and speaks of Jesus... i wanna give him the benefit of the doubt

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    3. It is true, god has shown me of my wicked ways and I repented to him and by his amazing grace he forgave me of my past heart. God has shown me, Lucipher has shown me that he uses the music industry to dull the minds of the deaf and blind. I was blind and deaf to it as well, I just thank god for showing me the way of his Charity, his love is so great times when these things happen we must have faith and read our bibles, and love, and praise and worship him for we know when we walk with God what is right and what is wrong.

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    4. Why would he admit that he's with the Illuminati? He would lose his Christians fans. Think about it. The answers he gives are just excuses to cloud the truth.

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  18. We as christians are to obstain from the appearance of evil. Period. Those who are in the Industry and deny they know what the Industry is about and whom they represent...They are either deceived or being deceptive. You will know them by their fruit. Be Not Deceived. Your adversary the devil, Satan, is not out to only deceive, manipulate, torture and the likes..He is out to Steal, Kill & Destroy! Be vigilant & sober minded.

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  19. &&
    Hosea 4:8 ~ My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge. "Because you have rejected knowledge, I also reject you as my priests; because you have ignored the law of your God, I also will ignore your children.
    Ezekiel 44:23 They are to teach my people the difference between the holy and the common and show them how to distinguish between the unclean and the clean.

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    1. Don't reject the knowledge of Jesus brought to you through Toby Mac. You are saying he is taking on the appearance of evil. Explain to me how an eye is evil? Explain to me how the Illuminati is evil? Explain to me what you think evil is? When John in Revelations saw his visions what do you think he saw it through? A spiritual eye is to see the spiritual world. Both good and bad. I think this Illuminati stuff is interesting but ever single thing claimed to be facts for proving their power and control is completely stretched facts and coincidences making them fit the scenarios. It's the same illogical and manipulative path the cheap psychics use to claim they know things about you to make you believe they can predict your future. It's psychological hogwash. Your stuck in a conspiracy theory rut. The devil knows the power of God. He will not entrust any humans with his plans. He knows that could potentially backfire on him if God decides to call that person He died for. I think there is groups out there thinking they are controlling the world and making a new world order and they get a high from the prospect of being important and having a signifigant meaning.

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    2. And, I think there are people out there thinking they have the inside information on the powerful people in the world, or the knowledge of some secret societies, and getting a high from that. I don't think it's Lucifer...I think it's Ludicrous...

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  20. In the OP, you say that TobyMac needs to come and speak against Illuminati/Satanic stuff...I don't know if you know his song "Hey Devil", but I'm pretty sure that qualifies as speaking out against this stuff, and I believe that it was completely intentional that he came out with a song about this after the Ill-M-I controversy (and by the way, yeah "enlightened ones" was the intention of illuminati in this context, making a sarcastic comment about the Pharisees...added FYI, Toby wasn't even the one that wrote this song, it was a cover.) For those of you that don't know, the chorus to the aforementioned "Hey Devil" says "Hey, Devil go on, get your junk out of here, I DON'T NEED YOU, so MOVE ALONG"

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    1. Any of his songs mention Jesus by name?

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  22. That's why you aren't supposed to look at the person but listen to the message of the songs... it's not our problem what he does in private or what he's trying to push or not at the end of the day God knows everything we don't and will deal with all people the way He sees fit for the things they have done. So don't follow the artist but follow the good message he gives of the love of Christ and the hope we find in him against the crazy tricks of this world.

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  23. I really hope hes not part of it. I stopped lisrening to mainstream pop music and predominately listen to christian music. I like quite a few songs of his and would be very dissapointed in him. He seems like he would know its not worth it

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  25. RAP THIS TOBY

    In shadows dense, a circle forms
    around a darkened figure
    Whose cruel eyes gleam with a plot
    of subtlety and rigor.

    This being once knew heaven's best,
    but overcome with pride
    Was then expelled because he said,
    "I'll be like the most high."

    Now to his demons Satan speaks
    his voice intense with hatred,
    "I have a plan that will destroy what
    God ordained as sacred.

    "But first mankind must be convinced
    to wholly sell his soul,
    I have the vice that will entice,
    we'll name it Rock-n-Roll.

    "Unprecedented in it's reach,
    unhindered in it's course,
    It will prevail around the world,
    destruction is it's force.

    The words will speak of mystic arts,
    rebellion, death, perversion,
    Hatred, lust-they'll all be part
    of one great mass subvesion

    "It's music will have equal power,
    strains which oft repeat,
    Sometimes 'twill come in mellow form,
    sometimes with driving beat.

    "And thus we'll smother wholesome thoughts
    with rhythms loud and pounding,
    Thereby we'll gain full-mind control
    with progress quit astounding.

    "We'll stifle guilt, in homes now strife,
    send Christian ethics reeling,
    Free love, drugs, and alcohol
    will seem much more appealing.

    "There are right now some young
    who will sell out at any cost,
    "I'll make them rich and give them fame,
    but I will be their boss.

    "They'll draw the masses, sing my songs,
    and introduce my ways:
    The body movements, make-up, lights
    the flames and smoky haze,

    "The screaming guitars, drinking blood,
    the 'signing' and much more,
    Will crush the sences, rape the souls
    of youg folks by the scores.

    "Then suicidal, murder demons
    go in strength to reap
    The lives of dazed and driven young,
    and lay them at my feet.

    "I will as yet through Rock-n-Roll
    gain worship and control,
    And even take from God those whom He
    says are in His fold.

    Our strategies won't need to change,
    nor even will our style,
    To get the church folk we'll just paint
    a new face with a smile.

    "We'll keep it's structure flexible,
    but all will have my blessing,
    We'll use a method smooth that will
    keep napping Christians guessing.

    "But first some groundwork we must lay
    by raising up some idols
    Who will with smiling faces quote
    some verses from their Bibles.

    "We'll lure with wealth, side track with fame,
    this method seldom fails
    In changing goals from winning souls
    to boosting CD sales.

    "Contemporary they'll first sing,
    and then with bait in tow,
    We'll sway the minds and change the hearts
    with 'Christian Rock-n-Roll.

    "We'll use it like a drug that will
    grip young lives with addiction,
    And many peaceful homes will be
    destroyed because of friction.

    "Some parents will oppose the young,
    with God stand for awhile,
    But many will then compromise,
    and say, 'It's just their style.'

    "The pastors will let down their guard,
    they'll want to keep their people;
    With force we'll make a hit on those
    who cry out, 'No, it's evil!'







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  26. RAP THIS, TOBY 2

    "We'll blind the eyes so most won't know
    that I ordained all Rock,
    And with this mighty tool," he hisses,
    "I'll Jehovah mock!"

    And thus was born the industry of
    selling God's salvation;
    "It's free to all," they sing with gusto,
    "there is no obligation."

    But then they post folks at the doors
    of concerts who will say,
    "I'm here to make sure that you don't
    come in before you pay.

    And once inside they hear of love,
    of Jesus and salvation,
    Sprinkled here and there midst
    Satan's driving syncopation.

    "To help inspire you," they say,
    "We'll put in God some zap,
    By coming to you on our plane,
    we'll help to bridge the gap.

    "We know of course, that most of you
    consider God as boring,
    But if you listen to our songs,
    you'll soon find us adoring."

    And like the devil's crowd,
    some use high volume, lights, and smoke,
    "While others say, "We'll hold the crowds
    with stage antics and jokes."

    Then after songs with words they say,
    "We lift you up, oh, Christ",
    They flaunt their posters, t-shirts, pins-
    the brainwashed pay their price.

    They quote the Bible for their gain,
    supposing gain is godly,
    And as young sould slip into Hell,
    they pat their checkbooks fondly.

    So has the church been mesmerized,
    by Satan rocked to sleep;
    The fields are white, it's harvest time,
    and who'll awake to reap?

    But very soon will God arise in
    righteous judgement fury,
    There will be none to stay His hand,
    no case by trial and jury.

    "You've tried to mix the white and
    black, your lives are gray" says God;
    "You've put My name to themes of
    lust, your feet has Satan shod.

    You've sung another Jesus and a
    gospel that's not true,
    I'm not just love and mercy, I am
    wrath and judgement, too.

    "You've used My word to ravish souls
    and savgely deceive,
    But, know that I, the Holy One, have
    not your songs received.

    "And thus have many been seduced and
    used for Satan's goal,
    I,God, am not the author of this
    Thing called Rock-n-Roll."






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    1. I don't know who wrote this, but it is awesome and so true..

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  27. I was really sickened when I learned about him. If he truly loved Jesus, he wouldn't do what he does. He would avoid the very appearance of evil ( as mentioned above). Study the illuminati, that he sings about. He is mocking the naive tht don't see it. It is horrible. I believe that he is probably one of the mk programmed to infiltrate the Christian church to destroy

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  29. why do some people still deny the evil in his songs and yet they all have heard and seen the lyrics..Clearly a child of God is known from his fruits...Anyway it's the devils work.blinding all the people who are so naive and protective of such music,trying to justify claiming there's good in it but NO...it's pure evil i tell you.Watch out an ask for God's grace to save you from such...

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  30. His hat is tilted the shadow covered an eye, big deal sometimes in my picture I put my hand on my chest. That doesn't mean I'm illuminati

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    1. You are right I do it all the time I AM NOT ILLUMINATI EITHER.

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  31. Look longer, harder and pray about it

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  32. flyleaf is satanic too,I didnt think Tobymac was...you cant judge a book by its cover

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    1. You believe everything you read dont you? You guys are total jacka**es. TOBY MAC BRINGS PEOPLE TO JESUS. Go to youtube and look up Speak Life by tobymac , THEN TELL ME HE IS NOT CHRISTIAN. Skillet is christian there music doesn't sound like Break down the lyrics to Speak Life, Me With Out You, then take Awake And Alive by Skillet, and Rise. Tell me there not christians I will find you track you down and jack slap you. Have a blessed day.

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  33. "you can't judge a book by its cover"? Yes, quite often you can. And you will know them by their fruits. Jesus warned not to be deceived by false prophets. And if you've studied to show yourselves approved, then you'd know that nearly every letter in the New Testament gives a warning not to be deceived by false prophets and teachers. Toby Macquire claims he's making fun of Pharisee types in his song. But then, claims it's not his song? And why is that supposed intent so vague and misunderstood by most? Jesus was very direct ... No one could misinterpret His accusations against the Pharisees. And He approached them in obedience to His Father in heaven. Are some people really going to compare Toby to Jesus? Is Toby really directly accusing Pharisees of being whitewashed tombs? Or perhaps he is the whitewashed tomb. Is our heavenly Father directing him to sing remakes of worldly songs or use strange symbols to .... Well I don't know. I would question, is this really of God? The Pharisees couldn't see who Jesus was because they Never knew God; however many of those questioning Toby are not judging as a Pharisee. They know God because they know Jesus. And they have the Holy Spirit. Jesus plainly warned not to be deceived. The Only way to do that is to ask the Holy Spirit of truth to reveal truth, and to "have your senses trained to discern right from wrong" or good from evil. Deception is obviously not obvious. So, one must do whatever they must to discern the truth! BTW, it's common for occult players to come to message boards to continue the deception. Don't be deceived.

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  34. Okay honestly this is pretty immature. Do you honestly believe the God of everything would let Tobymac prosper in the Christan music industry? No if Tobymac was to be whorrshipping the devil then why would he sell out of almost every single concert that he songs at? God would definetly stop it. He is God of the universe he wouldn't let this happen.

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    1. God is the God of the universe but the prince of this world is satan. He has the power to prosper those who would do his bidding. Read the temptation of Jesus.

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  35. Well teenage son just came home from a Toby Mac concert in Vancouver BC
    two nights ago. He was very happy to have spent his money on a Toby Mac Cap. Tonight my Daughter sat staring at his cap, with a very startled look on her face. On the lid of the cap is a very large graphic of the all seeing eye..

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  36. Beware of false prophets. We were warned in the bible

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  37. This is wrong, this whole page is wrong (except for those who support TobyMac)! TobyMac does not use his music to worship Satan, nor does he use it to hate on God. TobyMac is in no way with the illuminati, and GUESS WHAT? The little "illuminati" hand symbol that some celebrities used after their show are simply showing love to their producer, DIAMOND RECORDS. The celebrities that Christians accuse of workingn with the illuminati may not be Christian, like KE$HA, but that doesn't mean that they worship Satan. Also, you're only looking to the one part of Toby's music that SOUNDED bad. In reality, you need to listen to some of his other music.

    "I don't wanna gain the whole world
    And lose my soul"

    "It's always been about the music,
    Hoping God would use it,
    To set some people free.
    Well I can say without
    a doubt, I've never had it figured out.
    I'm thankful for you, yeah!"

    Toby is taking advantage of the type of music that many people consider acceptable in today's society AND trying to be the "cool guy" that he is in order to appeal to today's youth, not join the illuminati. Like he said, it's all about setting people free with his music. The one eye on his album cover "Eye on it" Illustrates his song Eye on it, where he talks about keeping his eye on the prize (heaven), which is a figure of speech used commonly when talking about one being determined on winning/achieving something.

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  38. WE SHOULD PRAY FOR OUT BROTHER IN THE LORD, WE DO KNOW WHEN RIGHT IS RIGHT AND WRONG IS WRONG. THIS ISN'T RIGHT. I DON'T SENSE TOO MUCH HOLINESS IN HIS SONGS OR PRAISES OF JESUS. THEN AGAIN I DO NOT KNOW THE HEART OF TOBY MAC, BUT GOD OUR FARTHER DOES. WE MUST ONLY PRAY AND LOVE AND WORSHIP TO OUR GOD FOR WHAT RIGHT IS RIGHT.

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  39. I do agree we should look at the world with a critical eye and ask God for a discerning heart. In my opinion, the music industry is more like the time of Moses; he led his people to break out of Egypt. We too as a people are called to break out from this Babylonian System.. Quit judging for the day of the Lord is near. The Bible says, “Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. (Hebrews 10:25)
    It’s more about building each other up and casting down our selfish crowns (e.g. narratives; blog message, etc...) and keep one another in prayer. Here in America the church has grown so mundane because of bigotry; doctrines, post modernism, mass media, consumerism; technology, Easter egg hunts?, coffee bars? etc.. Let the Word of God speak! If we allow Jesus to take us in His love personally to another level we won’t be so swift to judge. Our God is greater! That’s our Majesty’s grace calling us Christians to move forward. Here TobyMac may not appeal to some people and yet he is not perfect we should pray for him (James 5:7) that God would set him apart (John 17:15-18) and maintained in God’s love (2 John 1:8). We, as His people, wrestle not against flesh and blood (Ephesians 6:12) so posting a blog and judging a book by its cover is very tricky and misleading to those who are weak on the faith and to those who are new. Please take note I'm not here to impose a conflict but appeal to the brethren. I do feel that we are to be gentle and show mercy to those who fall (Galatians 6:1) which in this case we all are in need when we fall right?(Matthew 5:7) and as His church guided by their Sheppard (Psalm 95:7) and humbly work together in His Body. Let the world see Jesus in Toby Mac’s ministry and if people are getting saved..Praise Jesus! (1 John 5). Let his work be judged rightly before God. For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. (Romans 14:17).

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  41. In lose my soul by tobymac he says 666 soooo yeah

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  42. You guys are insane XD
    How else was he gonna respond to the question?
    "..*laughs* Wait....seriously?? Idiots" (That would be my response to you lunatics XD)
    MAYBE....JUUUUUST MAYBE, like when people always turn to one side in pictures...doesn't make them the illuminati. Nah, they just like turning to one side... but TobyMac... OOOOH NOT ALWAYS SHOWING ONE EYE ERLERMERNERTEH CERNFERMED!!!!
    This, my friends, is why Atheists make fun of you XD

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